{"id":3217,"date":"2012-07-23T07:30:48","date_gmt":"2012-07-23T14:30:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/?p=3217"},"modified":"2012-08-03T07:38:27","modified_gmt":"2012-08-03T14:38:27","slug":"that-medieval-bra-business","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/2012\/07\/23\/that-medieval-bra-business\/","title":{"rendered":"That Medieval Bra Business&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure style=\"width: 226px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.uibk.ac.at\/urgeschichte\/projekte_forschung\/textilien-lengberg\/medieval-lingerie-from-lengberg-castle-east-tyrol.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.uibk.ac.at\/urgeschichte\/projekte_forschung\/textilien-lengberg\/lengberg_bra.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"226\" height=\"270\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lengberg Castle, East-Tyrol: 15th century linen \u201cbra\u201d in comparison to a longline-bra from the 1950\u00b4s<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know how many of you read the CSA &#8220;<em>Communities for the Study of Dress and Fashion Forum<\/em>&#8221; Listserve, but there was quite a lively discussion last week about the now well-known 15th century &#8216;lingerie&#8217; found in an Austrian castle. The most commonly cited article being from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/femail\/article-2174568\/Austrian-dates-bras-15th-century-The-scraps-lace-castle-vault.html\">Daily Mail<\/a>, By  <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/home\/search.html?s=&amp;authornamef=Dalya+Alberge\">Dalya Alberge<\/a>. Much of the discussion on the forum was about the vocabulary being used: &#8220;bra,&#8221; &#8220;lingerie,&#8221; and other phrases normally used to describe twentieth and twenty-first century undergarments (not to mention hyperbole and sensationalistic writing). Listserve writers complained about the loss of educational opportunity, as well as the lack of contextualization for these pieces.<\/p>\n<p>This <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uibk.ac.at\/urgeschichte\/projekte_forschung\/textilien-lengberg\/medieval-lingerie-from-lengberg-castle-east-tyrol.html\">University of Innsbruk article<\/a> on the find, provides a little more of the cut-and-dry information of what was found, but here again also only uses modern-day terms to describe the objects (aside from a passing reference to a \u201cMieder\u201d (German for corselette).<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 214px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.historyextra.com\/lingerie\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.historyextra.com\/sites\/default\/files\/Israhel_van_Meckenenem_Verkehrte_Welt.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"214\" height=\"214\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">A woman hits her husband and puts on his underpants while he winds yarn in an engraving by Israhel van Meckenem, late 15th century.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The most informative article however, published a few days ago in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.historyextra.com\/lingerie\">BBC History magazine<\/a>, goes into considerable depth and provides a lot more context. That might be because it is written by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uibk.ac.at\/urgeschichte\/mitarbeiterinnen\/beatrix-nutz\/beatrix-nutz.html\">Beatrix Nutz<\/a>, a researcher at the Institute of Archaeology, University  of Innsbruck (She is writing her thesis on the textiles from Lengberg). For example, Nutz explains:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There are some written medieval sources on possible female breast  support, but they are rather vague on the topic. Henri de Mondeville,  surgeon to Philip the Fair of France and his successor Louis X, wrote in  his <em>Cyrurgia<\/em> in 1312\u201320: \u201cSome women\u2026 insert two bags in their  dresses, adjusted to the breasts, fitting tight, and they put them [the  breasts] into them [the bags] every morning and fasten them when  possible with a matching band.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Nutz&#8217;s long, in-depth article is full of citations, quotes, and references &#8211; proving much more educational and satisfactory to this historian. She even provides the more accurate term, &#8220;breast bags&#8221; to describe the bra-like undergarments, and helps to fill in a lot of the gaps left by the more sensationalized articles. Hopefully, her work will seep into the general consciousness, despite its lack of sensationalism.<\/p>\n<p>Feel free to leave your comments below.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A comparison of articles covering the sensationalistic medieval &#8216;bra&#8217; and a recommendation on the article that people should read to get a better education on the subject, written by Beatrix Nutz, a researcher at the Institute of Archaeology, University of Innsbruck (She is writing her thesis on the textiles from Lengberg)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,37,4,1],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3217"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3217"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3217\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3217"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3217"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3217"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fashionhistorian.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=3217"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}